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Title: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Dave Administrator on March 17, 2016, 02:45:59 PM
This topic was very interesting on our old forum and had well over 5400 views and 475 replies. So I have started it again here and copied my opening post and the first three replies we got back then. I do hope it gets the same wonderful response as it makes very good reading that sure does get you thinking.

To try and get some postings on our new board, I have put up this new topic hoping to get very mixed responces.

I for one cannot believe that when we pass over all is gone forever. I wish I could say I have had proof of this but alas nothing spiritualy wonderful has ever happened to me.

If you have please tell us about it or if you don't believe there is such a thing,,why?

I always respect peoples beliefs and would never force my own on them.

Hope to get some interesting replies.  :|
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Dave Administrator on March 17, 2016, 02:46:55 PM
Postby June » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:34 am

Hi Dave,

I have always found this an interesting topic. I never really believed in Life after death until after my dad died a few years ago. My mum and i noticed that a few months after my dad's passing that things happened that we could not explain so we decided to go along to a Spiritualist Church one evening, something we had never done before and it was there that the medium picked my mum out of the crowd of people during the evening and gave us a message from my dad. I do have to say that there is absolutely no way that the medium knew anything prior to what she told my mum so yes i do believe in life after death.
Sadly my mum passed away two weeks ago and i feel my mums passing much more because we were extremely close. My mum was ill before she passed and us both being believers in Life after death, she did say to me that she loved me and would always watch over me and guide me bless her. Unfortunately i wasn't at my mum's side when she passed which has upset me greatly and in a way i feel i let her down when she needed me the most!
My mum had Cancer and i took the necessary time off work to be with her at home and when she was having her radiotherapy treatment. The day before my mum died, i was with her right up until midnight until she went to sleep and thought that if i had of stayed at her bedside and she knew i was there she would have tried to stay awake for me so i made the decision to come home and go back the following morning but unfortunately i got a call the next morning to say my mum had passed away, i was inconsolable. I was devastated and still feel guilty about that today. The strange thing is though that since my mum has passed, some strange things have happened that i cannot explain, they never happened before she died. I think it's my mum's way of letting me know she ok, i do hope so!

Thanks
June.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Dave Administrator on March 17, 2016, 02:48:00 PM
Postby Dave » Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:30 am

Hi June..Thank you so much for sharing what must be painful for you to write about, it certainly brought a lump to my throat reading it.

The very first thing I thought of going through your story, was that it's just amazing how many hundreds of people who have come through my site in the last 8 years have said that their loved one died when they were not their.

Someone once told me that because they love us so much they find it hard to die in front of us and leave us. Somehow they seem to know we are there and wait till were gone. People who have been by a bedside all the time have said they just popped out to go to the loo, only to find them dead on their return. So please don't feel guilty June, she would not have wanted it any other way.

I'm so pleased you feel something still from you Mum and Dad June and how I wish I had something like that too, but I do believe that love is such a powerful and divine thing, like in the film Ghost, we take it with us.

I'm so sorry for you loss and you have my deepest sympathy. :( I wish you great courage and strength of spirit in your daily life .
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Dave Administrator on March 17, 2016, 02:49:13 PM
Postby boatlover » Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:37 pm

Hi Dave,

Before my Husband died, we spoke about this topic a lot. We were quite sure that there was an afterlife, possibly in the form of life as we know it to be. We discussed how people "click" when they meet. The expressions of " I feel like I have known him all my life", the way some people can read your thoughts and finish your sentences when they haven't known you that long. The incredible soul mate experience etc, etc. The thoughts we had were that maybe we had been married in a previous life, which is why we just knew we were meant to be together (after the first date)! So before he died, in my arms, we said we would be together again one day. I guess it helped him "let go", believing that. It helped us both.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Dave Administrator on March 17, 2016, 02:53:53 PM
Postby Saz » Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:16 pm

I have always thought that once we were dead, that's it. It never frightened me, but it made everything so much more final. Lately, i've been researching reincarnation, and the more I read, the more I believe. I sort of mixed the two ideas up to come to this conclusion:
We all have energy. We know, through science, that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. So when we die, the energy has to transform... I believe that it's just pot luck what it transforms into... we have all been many things in many previous 'lives' and will be many more in future 'lives'. I believe mortal life as we know it is definitely not the end for our energies, and we will go on and on.
The idea of love, I believe, is two energies finding each other again, after however many years. We can love more than one person in a lifetime because energy has been around since the beginning of existence; mixing, splitting, joining again... Energy is a truly amazing thing...
Death may be the end for our mortal beings, but not for our energies.

Don't know how well I explained that lol

Re: Do you believe in afterlife?
Postby Dave » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:53 pm

You know Saz, this is becoming very interesting what you and the ladies have posted here. I’ve never thought of it like that and it kind of makes lots of sense of many of the things we don't yet understand. I didn't want to bring religion into this topic but if you think about all the miraculous events told in the bible, they would be quite possible with some/one/thing that understood enough to manipulate the power of energy.
I have often wondered that if a man or woman looses their spouse and then in time meet someone else that they fall deeply in love with and marry. When they themselves die who does their love and loyalties belong to, the first or second?
Your theory also would explain why sometimes we get a feeling that we have done something or been in a place before that we call déjà vu.  :shock:
Thank for posting Saz and I do so hope that anyone reading this can add something to give us all something to think about.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Janka on April 13, 2016, 11:49:36 PM
It´s been 4 years,5 months and 3 days since my beloved man Jan died and I can´t kiss or touch another man,not even look at someone the way I did at my beloved Jan,and I don´t want to anymore as my immortal beloved one is irreplaceable for me forever.He is the best,my most beautiful and only one until I meet him again and it will be for eternity.God is immensely merciful and does take care of him and one day it will be Him who may reunite us as one in the heaven,therefore I do my best to be worthy of that as well.I believe that in the future we both will have our bodies again as Virgin Mary who was taken into the heaven with her body too;as many dead people who visit their loved ones and touch them with their bodies on this earth,although they´re already dead.It all will happen after the Last Judgement on the New Earth as Adam and Eve at the beginning.I´ve experienced many supernatural things since my beloved Jan died,starting with the big heart engraved by him 3 days after his death on the bed we were sleeping together 3 days earlier,following in many miracles he has done for me by now.This is my belief and it´s unshakeable forever,but I have respect for yours,too.I also want to tell you that my beloved Jan wasn´t ailing or ill.He died suddenly from morning till night and it was the fatal error of the doctors who killed him,I think.I also know that we can´t change some things in life and here is the reason why I think over this,because my beloved Jan died 11.11.´11 at 1 by night,and these 7 units explain it all,I´m sure.We had put up at the challet no.11 at 1 by night 2 weeks before his death and I had felt there something bad;it was death.It´s the hardest wound I´ve ever felt in my whole life.I pray,that´s all I can do.I have no family,just the best friends of mine and my belief in God.He is the only one connection with my beloved Jan now.There is so much I´d like to talk about,perhaps later.I´m a poem writer and I´ve written more than 30 poems for my beloved Jan that I´m going to post it here,and yet I already don´t find any words to describe all of my suffering I´ve experienced so far.
Thanks a lot for reading these words and for this wonderful site that allows us to talk about the things like this.

With love Janka


 :candle:


Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Dave Administrator on April 14, 2016, 01:24:19 AM
Faith is a wonderful thing Janka and has given many members over the years here , hope to see their loved ones again.

It's good to hear your Jan has shown you signs over the years but like I said when I first started this topic, I have never been blessed with any signs or visions in my lifetime.  Even so, I have no doubt their is an afterlife and as Iv'e heard somewhere before, "you'll see it when you believe it"
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: longedge on April 14, 2016, 03:14:04 PM
I know there are things that I don't understand.
I believe in what I know to be true.
I hear about many things that I don't understand, which I hope are true.


   " Hope springs eternal in the human breast;
     Man never is, but always to be blessed:
     The soul, uneasy and confined from home,
     Rests and expatiates in a life to come. "
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Cairo on April 15, 2016, 08:52:59 PM
I have very little time for most organised religion but I try to keep an open mind about life and death. There are so many things about the universe we don't know.

An interesting question. I'm sure we've all thought about this.

Like the post earlier I think energy is never lost and whatever it is that gives us 'life' is quite possibly transformed into some other form. What that may be I think is beyond human comprehension.

I certainly don't believe in a heaven and hell in any conventional sense but I firmly believe we live on in the minds of those who were close to us, in some form. Is whatever that form is capable of sending us 'signs', of sending messages via a spiritual medium? Well, quite possibly. I don't know.

Can our energy re-unite with that of lost loved ones when we too die? Well, quite possibly, I don't know.

I rather suspect much of what we hope is a connection comes from within our own minds rather than from externally but I think all things are possible and wouldn't dismiss anything.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Rogersju on May 01, 2016, 01:49:06 PM
I'm very confused about this topic. My lovely mum died very suddenly 2 years ago, we were extremely close. I always thought there was an after life but since mum died I haven't experienced anything that would make me think it was her. I'm pretty sure she would want to let me know she is still around if she could. I desperately want to believe, I have been contemplating going to see a medium, surely she would come through to me if she's still around? 💙
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: phoenixrising on May 01, 2016, 11:25:18 PM
To anyone wanting to contact a medium, please please please contact your local spiritualist church and ask for a recommendations. They will be able to put you in contact with a genuine medium. Most hold weekly demonstrations too and everyone is welcome. It's very different to most peoples idea of church.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: sovague on May 06, 2016, 02:57:47 AM
Me and my best friend used to play cards a lot. A month after he died i found two playing cards on the floor  outside my front door. There is pictures of cats on them and one of the pictures looks similair to my old cat. My house is the last one on the row so nobody walks past my door and i can't work out how the cards got there. Did fate put them there for me to find ? Does someone want me to know he is at peace now ? I put the cards up on the wall so i know i didn't dream it.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Norma on May 06, 2016, 07:51:35 AM
If you have a open mind to signs, they are there its just a case of recognising them, i hope the cards have given you some comfort xx

 :hug:
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: pete stacey on May 26, 2016, 11:20:51 PM
dave after our conversation in bristol , im happy to post on here, i did with my wife paranormal research and have some very interesting photos and other evidence of somethng, wether it is the afterlife or some sort of residual presence im still to find that out, but when the equipment picks up voices other than the people in the room it is interesting and sometimes weird to hear, im open to any suggestions about what it may be, items being moved and things being thrown are just some of the things i have experienced as well, mediums i dont really believe because some of it can be faked, sly probing by the medium gets them some of the answers, not saying they are all fake , just my own opinion, ouji boards i stay away from as well, as if you bring a spirit through you cant be totally sure it is a good spirit, and thats like playing with fire, im open to anybody asking me questions and having a discussion about this, the one thing i will say is i have met so many people who are interested in this subject but dont say anything , either thinking they will be laughed at or not wanting to walk round dark places at night, so in short there is something there, what it actually is we may never find out the real answer........ 
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on May 27, 2016, 11:54:52 AM
I agree Pete we cannot know the answers,and i think that is what makes people reluctant to talk about things is fear of being cast out of social groups,or even the whole of society. We live in an age where things that are not scientifically proven are derided,in our society. yet Science has failed to prove that it doesnt exist either, in fact more recently quantum mechanics/physics seems to point to errors in some of the established laws of physics,and suggest much more that it is possible.

We are lucky because derision is all we face,in the past and in some modern day countrys speaking of a possability other than that decreed by the powerful can have much worse consequences.

I would also not mess with ouija boards,but i,m not afraid to walk round dark corners except in the context of some ill intent from humans very much alive,

I have seen "ghosts" all my life and as a child didnt think it was unusual and obviousely neither did my mum or grandma who brought me up, but i have no claims to be a medium they are just there,if something moves in my present house it will be Carrie the former resident with particular views about where things should go and where her picture should be hung, but the ghosts have not been my loved ones that have passed, although i have had signs from them which have been repeated and convincing, but it feels very different,which makes me wonder whether the "ghosts" we see are some sort of phenomenen that one day quantum mechanics will explain,maybe a parallel universe in which those people are living, moving things around throwing things maybe we appear as ghosts to them, or its some sort of anomilly in which we see a mirror of the past not an illusion because its real enough to photograph and shared by others, but something which is quite separate from signs from our loved ones.

As humans we always seek answers to questions and demand explanations,accepting that we dont know the answers is a big leap which is a very liberating thing once taken because once you believe something is possible then anything becomes possible, and science and neurology becomes one of a large group of possabilitys rather than a definitive answer, so if i believe in quantum physics and an afterlife, then i can also believe in god, re-incarnation, amimal spirits,crystal healing,shamanism, ancestral gods paganism or fairys at the bottom of the garden without becoming a member of any religion or set of followers,or needing proof of one idea above the others.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: pete stacey on May 27, 2016, 05:50:47 PM
very well put karena,

yes people have a fear of being cast out, i dont fit into that category, i like you believe there is something there, wether it be a parallel universe or different plane, past or future one day we will find out, my wife died in the house and for one i do not feel uncomfortable being here one bit, in fact it feels homely, it was our home for 4 years, we both used to do paranormal research looking for answers and have done many investigations, the group which we go with even let me do individual investigations , which is a good way of testing your nerves, i still want to carry on doing this and would love to find somebody close to me that wants to do the same.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Emz2014 on May 27, 2016, 07:53:10 PM
I believe there is something there, and have had various things happen which makes me believe.  Seeing things and random electronic things happening and also a story from when I was young

On a slightly different note, we went on a ghost walk ages ago and afterwards the guide let just a few of us climb to the top of the tower afterwards.  The guide had some kind of meter/reading thingie with him (supposed to make noise when there was a presence there) and was funny&weird, every time he put it near me it went berserk lol!

Im interested and open minded with the topic, and dont understand fully but finding quantum mechanics intriguing.  Read a really interesting theory recently that we are constantly walking from one universe to another, as they come in and out of existence based on probability and that time is not really linear, it just appears that way to us Xx
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Soleil on May 27, 2016, 08:23:21 PM
I'm also a believer in spirit afterlife but also in some telepathic communications in the present life. When my mother was sick in 1981, things happened that could only be explained that she was trying to communicate from somewhere else either in the house or miles away. I would get this kind of 'itchy' restlessness which I actually told her about after it happened a couple of times. I would either call at the exact right moment she needed me, or go to her room at the exact right moment. Just being open to these things will give consolation.

Another thing was after she died I almost never dreamed of her as I believed she was at peace. One morning I woke up and had a dream of her, and my pillow was absolutely soaking wet with my tears. It was an awful foreboding feeling. I carried on and got ready for work and I was only in the office and that was the day we all remember. September 11, 2001.  I am sure the afterlife know there are things on the horizon and she was trying to let me know.

Pete I am always interested in knowing about afterlife and paranormal.  Time for a  :coffeetoast:
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: colin on June 02, 2016, 04:05:16 PM
I firmly believe in a life after death,since my darling passed away I have had my darling visit me,she sat on the end of the bed dressed in a blue blouse and white skirt,her hair was shoulder length like it was when we first got married 52yrs ago,also whilst in the kitchen with all the windows and doors shut some-one blew on the back of my neck,firmly believe it was my darling Pat.Nothing will change my mind on this subject we will meet again and be together again and happy.
                                                                            Colin. :hearts:
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: woods on June 24, 2016, 05:25:39 PM
no, absolutely not.
gone is gone
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Janka on June 25, 2016, 02:15:35 AM
I firmly believe in a life after death,since my darling passed away I have had my darling visit me,she sat on the end of the bed dressed in a blue blouse and white skirt,her hair was shoulder length like it was when we first got married 52yrs ago,also whilst in the kitchen with all the windows and doors shut some-one blew on the back of my neck,firmly believe it was my darling Pat.Nothing will change my mind on this subject we will meet again and be together again and happy.
                                                                            Colin. :hearts:

Dear Colin,

you´re right!I also believe,as well as you.I´ve got many signs from my beloved Jan since he died,as well.I also experienced something between these two worlds that made me sure about it,too.I´m very sorry for your loss and please,don´t be sad,because one day we´ll meet our loved ones again,being as one,for eternity!

Send you hugs and hold you close to my heart!

With love Janka



 :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Brian71 on August 04, 2016, 02:39:16 AM
I firmly believe in a life after death,since my darling passed away I have had my darling visit me,she sat on the end of the bed dressed in a blue blouse and white skirt,her hair was shoulder length like it was when we first got married 52yrs ago,also whilst in the kitchen with all the windows and doors shut some-one blew on the back of my neck,firmly believe it was my darling Pat.Nothing will change my mind on this subject we will meet again and be together again and happy.
                                                                            Colin. :hearts:

Hello Colin,  Ive been reading quite a lot of the posts on here since I came across the forum yesterday, and the question posed here did prompt some thought.   My wife Ann and I occasionally discussed this very subject,  but we both were of the opinion that when we are dead that's it, there's nothing left, as much as we would like to believe there may be something we always discounted the possibility, and I still don't believe there is anything after death.

However,  I did have a weird aberration experience on the evening when retiring to my bed on the very day my wife passed away in April.   On getting into bed and snuggling down, pulling the bedclothes around me in order to get warm, to the right of our bedroom door which I always leave open to circulate air in the darkness of the room I could see what looked like a rectangle shape with fuzzy crazed edges of a lightish grey colour, with my wifes face appearing clearly in the centre looking down at me.  Strangely it appeared higher than her height at almost 2 mtrs from the floor, taller than she was, as she was only about 5ft.2 or 5.3".

 I remember speaking to her, telling her to get in the bed so we could talk,  it seemed to be floating slightly, slowly side to side a little, I spoke to her a few times,  I didn't feel frightened...well perhaps a little, anyway I turned the bedside light on and as I did so it seemed to disappear out through the door.  I remember getting out of bed and walking into kitchen...saying are you here Ann ?,  but nothing so I returned to bed, a few seconds after turning the light off it reappeared again in about the same position,  I looked around the room for possible reflections from the windows or any mirrors but couldn't see anything obvious,  I again asked her a few times to come to bed so we could talk, then strangely it seemed to float across the bed, but it didn't go around the bottom of the bed where one has to walk to get round the bed to my side nearest the window, it seemed to float over my lower leg area, and then I felt what can only be described as a down pressure on the bedclothes,  I was lying on my right side so I felt the pressure on my left arm and shoulder, and that was it.

It's never occurred since,   I put it down to the fact I had not slept for 4 nights, as I stayed by my wife's bedside the 4 nights she was in hospital before she passed away, so obviously my mind was all over the place that evening, basically sleep deprivation.  Was it my imagination ?  I honestly don't know, I can only assume it was my mind playing tricks on me, as I really don't believe it's possible, though I respect other peoples desire to believe such things, me personally I've always thought there's rational explanation for such aberrations or phenomenon, whatever one wants to call it.    I suppose it's no dafter than me talking to her sometimes, knowing I'm talking to myself.

You take care Colin.....best wishes......Brian...(out in the sticks of Herefordshire)

Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on August 04, 2016, 04:02:55 PM
Brian until science proves otherwise i think it is logical, science proves energy cannot be lost but that it transfers to another form,quantum science equations demonstrate it is possible to be in two places at once and that there is an overlap of dimensions - it seems to me the further science progresses the clearer it becomes that some of the established theory is wrong or incomplete, and that there are more possabilitys than we know.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Susievic on August 10, 2016, 10:45:23 PM
Hi Brian, all
The reason I registered today was for this topic, a few things happened to me 18 months ago, which at the time I was shocked. I was not sleep deprived, was I just overwhelmed with grief and looking for things. Although i have never believed in this sort of thing, am not religious.

My father died suddenly, i was staying with my mother. It must have been a few days after he died as I was finding it too difficult staying strong for my mum.  They were together for fifty years.  I was in the lounge whilst my mum was upstairs, i remember thinking I can not do this, I can not cope or be strong for my mum, go upstairs and see her anymore that day.  The lounge joins on to the kitchen, and suddenly the kitchen light flickered.  I did not think too much of it, i got up and turned the kitchen light off. Within a couple of minutes the light in the lounge flickered.  I was quite shocked I remember, but if that did not happen i do not think i could have gone upstairs to her.   Its not happened again.

The next day i was texting a friend about him dying,  i checked the text back, and his first name was on the text. I only ever called him dad, I would never use his first name.  But contact via a name in a text, I was worried about my mind. But why not, I know what I saw....

I was not sleep deprived, would my bereft mind do this?

I remember years ago a friend's mother experienced things and I thought (did not say) she is just grieving.  But now I have..

I so want it to be true and not my mind grieving. I would love to speak to my family about it, but do not want to upset them...i have spoken to my partner.

It must be on my mind, last night i woke up after having a dream that my dad gave me another sign. I do not have them as often now, but how i loved the dreams when he hugged me, said do not worry I am ok.

Anyway, sorry for long post
Susie
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Norma on August 11, 2016, 07:05:29 AM
Never apologies fir long posts Susie xx
Sending acwelcome hug

 :hug:
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on August 11, 2016, 06:55:01 PM
Sending a welcome hug too.Many times I have questioned my sanity over things like this ,were not supposed to believe i we are toldt there a logical answer for everything and yet this thread has been so long pages and pages on the old site too that you start to wonder who are the insane ones.If something happens that is a warning or a comfort then perhaps it is more insane to ignore them.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Brian71 on August 14, 2016, 02:36:06 PM
Just want to share something that happened last week, and being a fairly rational guy (well I thought I was until my wife passed away) I believe it to be pure coincidence.
My daughter and her two girls came up from Cornwall and stayed with me for a week, where we went out every day in my car on trips, such as visiting Stratford on Avon etc. and many other places of interest.

Well like many people I have a large collection of music which are stored on a SD card which slots into my cars media centre, and it contains well over 1000 songs.  I have it set to play randomly, which is what my wife preferred rather than listen to the same artist for half hour or so which can get boring after a time she said.

We were talking about her mum,  ie my late wife, and my daughter asked if mum had ever given any indication no matter how small when I had been talking to her, which I occasionally do, and I said no, as I don't really believe in such things.  I told my daughter that I had often asked my wife if she wanted me to join her, but of course the dead cannot answer, this was when I was at my lowest in the days following her death.

Anyway,  I said quite loudly in the car,  Ann if you are there and can hear me, give me a sign, and what happened next bought us both to tears and indeed I had to pull over.  When Ann and I rented our very first flat after we were married, we had no TV, just a cheap portable transistor radio,  she was 18yrs and I was 23 and we heard a song play on the radio which became our own personal song, and it remained so right through our married life,  I'm sure other couples have their own personal favourite song too which means something special to them.
The song was Herb Alpert's 'This Guys in Love with You'   and I actually had it played at her funeral, so I was rather surprised and taken aback,  when the random song selected from over 1000 songs on that SD card at that very point suddenly started to play in the car, and more bewildering was the fact I saw the volume slider on the lcd display increase slightly, yet I had not touched it (as I tend to have my music in the car pretty quiet).

My daughter said 'oh my god', as she started to cry, because she knew that song was rather special.   
Co-incidence ?  or what ?  but to select that particular song out of well over 1000 at that particular moment, even for a sceptic like me does seem very weird indeed,  but obviously it was mere co-incidence, it has to be.

Hope your all keeping well - a big hug to everyone.    :hug:

Best wishes....Brian
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Brian71 on August 14, 2016, 02:42:42 PM
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Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Julie Magson on August 14, 2016, 03:00:07 PM
Doesn't matter what it was Brian if it brought you something. I don't know what I believe but I won't discount anything because no one really knows after all.
I haven't had any signs yet apart from Alan's air purifier switching itself on one evening and I wasn't anywhere near it- really can't explain that.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Susievic on August 14, 2016, 06:38:08 PM
Hi Brian
I was a sceptic, but after my experiences I am finding it hard to discount..

It was lovely whatever it was, a volume increasing is surely more than coincidence

I wish there was a way of knowing for sure..
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Brian71 on September 12, 2016, 01:24:01 AM
Just a revisit to this topic,  I don't think there is any afterlife,  I know that some people would like to think there is, as it gives us comfort to believe that is so.

I suppose the issue I have is the fact both my wife and I gave up religion some 30yrs ago, as neither of us could think of a single good thing it had contributed to mankind,  other than make certain individuals and some religious institutions very rich,  which is why my wife requested some years ago that her funeral should be a non religious service,  which it was.

So why is it a issue ?  you may ask,   well... because, if I accept that there is some form of afterlife,  then that also opens the possibility that there is indeed a God, as I believe the two are connected,  I don't think you can realistically accept one without the other.

I think deep down we would all like to believe,  religion played a signifiant part of my younger days, as my fathers family were very religious,  at one point there were 3 vicars in the family...true.. indeed even today the son of one of them is the vicar of a church in Nottingham.   When I was young we went to Sunday school twice,  morning and afternoon.
I remember once asking one of my vicar uncles some years ago what made him so absolutely convinced there was a god,   and he replied "Well Brian he has been paying me for the last 40yrs". :tongue:  I've also asked that same question of my neighbour who is also happens to be a retired vicar, having been in the church most of his life,  to which his reply was a little more sensible saying "Brian can you prove to me there isn't a god".

I think most of us want to believe there is,  but the rational part of me is of the opinion that religion has been the single largest scourge ever to have been inflicted on mankind causing millions of deaths down the centuries and is still happening today.
However in times of crisis, many of us will say a prayer silently to ourselves,  perhaps when a loved one is seriously ill, praying they will recover and pull through,  despite my sceptical opinion on religion, I also did exactly that during the night while I sat at the side of my wife's bed at the hospital just a few hours before she died.

When you look at history, and see how men use religion for their own ends, after all the Anglican church of England only came into being because Henry VIII wanted to marry his many wifes, and the Catholic church forbid it,    so in 1535 he started his own religion which we have throughout the UK today,  then in 1604 James 1st also decided to amend it and write his own versions.
Hence my scepticism,  don't misunderstand me,  I think the words of the bible and teaching are very good, few people would say otherwise, who could deny the 10 commandments are not a good guide to live one's life by, although the first 4 are only applicable if you believe of course.  However I think we will only truly know when we have passed on ourselves.

So that is why I'm so sceptical about there being any afterlife, because AIS said previously, I believe the two are connected and if you accept one is true then the other must be too, and if it gives comfort to people who do believe, who am I to deny them that comfort.

So endeth this sermon... :whistle:  Hope you all have a great day whether it be in this life or the next.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Struggling on September 12, 2016, 08:35:16 AM
I'm newly bereaved and so far have resisted what I want to do and go and talk to a vicar. I'm not religious but I would happily turn to religion if there was a guarantee that I would see my darling husband again. This is so hard to type, crying as I do it. In moments of logic and clarity I feel silly for thinking this way but it's like people have previously said, even non believers 'pray' in bad times and I am guilty of that too. I envy those who believe, they can't all be delusional together surely?
Our son who is 17 said he saw Dad a couple of days after his death. He was just out with his mates, nowhere special, and Dad suddenly appeared in front of him. My son said Dad was smiling at him and then gone. He came home to tell me and I just hugged him, burst in to tears and said I was jealous that he had seen him - I genuinely am. My son could even tell me what Dad was wearing - he didn't have to think about it which makes me realise that he totally believed it and therefore I must do as well. My daughter who is just like her Dad and a bit of a tough nut also believed him. She says she has heard Dad in the house, puffing on his vape pen once and then also coming up the stairs and coughing. I talk to my husband every day, kiss his photo, hug his pillow which i spray in aftershave and go to sleep wanting to dream about him but nothing yet. I rarely dreamed about him when he was alive but am so desperate to find that contact. It is just such torment and I know I am doing it to myself. I will read this later and feel silly I'm sure but this is me, right now, and it's just so hard.
I want to believe that he is now somewhere waiting or watching. I don't know what my life plans are now, my kids need me to be strong and I'm anything but. I have never spent much time alone in my life so don't know if I can do this for another 30 to 50 years (I'm 45). Rambling now so signing off x
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Brian71 on September 12, 2016, 01:09:51 PM
Struggling:

I think many people likely feel the same as you,  in another topic entitled "A Really Bad day" I wrote last night,  I ommitted to mention that I went into Hereford Cathedral while taking some walks yesterday, and sat in there for probably 45mins.

This is the 2nd time I've done that since my wife passed away,  read into it what you will,  what motivated me to do that?   I don't know because as you gather from the above post I am a religious sceptic.   The truth is of course.....deep down I think we all want to believe even people like you and I.

You mentioned your son claimed to have seen his Dad since his passing,  well on the evening of the same day my wife passed away I thought I saw my wife too in our bedroom.,  but rather than repeat it again.  Please take a read of my 1st post in this thread,  it's on the 2nd page. It was this aberration which prompted me to post on this topic in the first place.

You say " I would happily turn to religion if there was a guarantee that I would see my darling husband again"   sadly religion does not give any guarantee's,  I remember being taught that much,   it's about having self faith,  a faith I don't have and doubt I ever will,  I'm too much of a realist,  but I do know you yourself have to want to believe, without any doubts.   
Like you I envy people who have that faith a little, or do I? as religion is free, we don't have to buy it.   
If you think it will help why not have a chat with your local vicar,  it's a form of counselling like any other,  plus there's Cruse and your own doctor who may also put you in touch with people who can help with how you are feeling.    I went along just once and felt it didn't help me,  but who knows,  it certainly does no harm.

Your still young and have many years in front of you,  I'm glad you have family around you, sadly I don't, other than my daughter who lives 240miles away but she's the only one who phones frequently,  I'm 71 and an old fogey compared to you.   It will be tough, and it's still raw at the moment but with time you will slowly cope better and the crying will occur less, but it will be a very slow process,  it's been 5ths for me, and I still have bad days.
BTW "Never" feel silly when writing on here, think of this forum as a sanctuary,  a safe place where you can say what YOU want to say openly,  it's what makes this site so unique,  no-one will judge you here,  simply because we all are, or have gone through the same loss you have.   I'm 71 and some days I cry like a baby....to some people it may sound ridiculous,  but of course it's not something I tell others,  but somehow especially in your case for your children's sake you do have to be strong and we have to try and forge a life out of what's left....but it will take time, a lot of time.

Also don't worry about talking to your husband....I talk to my wife Ann frequently,  I tell her what I've been doing that day or news about the grand-children etc...anything really.   My eldest son is 47....older than you...lol,  my daughter is 40, and she is the only one who understands, as she misses her Mum terribly too,  my 2 sons grieving finished at the funeral and I rarely ever see them or hear from them.  They both have their own little worlds and families to keep them occupied and in reality never mention their Mum... it's almost as though she never existed...sad really.

As for religion,  I think of it as a "State of Mind"   if you think it might give you some comfort, then AIS who am I to deny you that,  you have to do what you want to do......and as for Rambling on....I do that continually...lol...that's why my posts tend to be longer that others on here.. :laugh:

You take care,  I'm only a PM away if you ever want to speak to someone,  and that applies to anyone else on here who have lost their wife or husband.    Sometimes it's good to talk to someone who is going through the same as you.

I wish you much strength through this terribly sad time in your life.....in reality there is nothing worse.

 :hug:
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Tony07 on October 01, 2016, 08:45:45 AM
I would like to tell you my experience regarding this question, and after this yes I do believe.............My Open Heart Surgery Story  – Vision, Near Death Experience, or a Visit to the Astral World............ Suddenly  (I don’t know for how long) I just felt all the questions I have been asking myself for as long as I can remember, I suddenly   knew the answers …Why are we here? It just felt like I knew everything, my thoughts started to become so logical and seemed to be effortless in coming to conclusions from questions I was asking myself.  I saw myself in this vision it looked nothing like me but I knew it was me, from what I was wearing it looked like I was in the stone age time, long black hair and I looked about 20ish. I died and then was laid to rest, time covered over me and I disappeared into the earth. I had lots of visits from other lives I have/had experienced, it was a very pleasant feeling. Then I saw what I assumed to be the force of all things, it wasn't a guy with long hair and a beard  either it was like a gigantic tree of  light. There were zillions of little lights swirling around it and I knew they were entities of people/beings that had passed on and were regenerating. This sounds crazy I know but I knew they were what we call souls. I have always believe in reincarnation but these (call them what you like) visions really meant something  to me.

Some experience or what, I am not afraid of dying now I know I will meet up with my love ones and then regenerate and go on another adventure until I have learned all I have to learn then  who knows, perhaps pass my knowledge on to  other lost souls  ???????

I often take comfort from this experience and thats why sometimes I feel like I am just waiting for the right bus to come along to start me on a new adventure.    (just my opinion)
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Cee Cee on June 24, 2017, 01:41:48 AM
 Having s strong faith, I have always believed in the concept of the afterlife. But having lost my Dad last Christmas and my very good friend a few weeks ago, I am questioning I beliefs.  Which scares me.  I constantly talk to my Dad and friend, looking up but then later feel as they are still by my side. I do feel their soul leaves us and wall among others around us, but only when they are ready to leave. My nephew was only 1 when my Dad passed and he held our family together and grows more like my Father by the day x 🎇
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on June 24, 2017, 05:39:01 PM
There is nothing wrong with questioning beliefs,I read a great deal of spiritual stuff after losing my husband,about

a lot of different beliefs.We don't know the answers and sometimes that's really difficult when we have been brought up with one set of beliefs,whether that's science or a religion.For me the solution was to believe that there are many possabilities and to embrace them all and rule out none.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: WOODY on July 03, 2017, 10:52:48 AM
Hi to everyone here,
I have been very reluctant, to post on this topic, as I had a very bad experience of abuse etc, on another group forum, the person concerned, continuously targeted me, with abuse and insults, the admin had to step in, but nothing was done about this person, so I decided to leave the group, as I did not want any more abuse from this person.

My Wife was a Spiritualist medium and was a guest medium, regularly at several Spiritualist churches.
All our children have been named in the Spiritualist church.

Since my wife passed in December 2016, I am very aware that she is around me, I am always getting signs from her, when I have asked her about something, I talk to her all the time, as if she were here.

So yes, I totally believe that there is an afterlife.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: longedge on July 03, 2017, 12:17:33 PM
Hi Woody,
As far as trolling is concerned, I've never seen any evidence of that on here at all. I use a number of forums (fora ?? ) for a variety of interests and sometimes you do have to have a bit of a thick hide and equally you sometimes come across other users who have an awkward way with words, like me, who sometimes come across as a bit of a grump but heh ho.......

On the topic of the thread, I'm still firmly astride the fence and accept that there are things that I don't understand or know about but that's as far as my sceptical mind lets me go  :smiley:
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: WOODY on July 03, 2017, 12:25:43 PM
Hi Longedge,
Thank you very much for your reply. Much appreciated.
I do appreciate everyone's views, but I never get into arguments about it, as everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on July 03, 2017, 08:20:29 PM
Believe me trolling is not allowed here.
We all have grief in common and this site is about mutual support and i know for some people the things people say too us in our outside lives can sometimes make us angry,who among us hasnt had someone say of the person we lost he/she is better off in the next place and found it upsetting as we quietly count all the reasons they would be better off here with us.
But we are not all the same and the variety of beliefs here is in my view actually a positive thing,because more than anything else this needs to be and feel like a safe space for everyone who comes here.Its fine to express belief or non belief as long as its not in a way which is offensive or upsetting or derogatory too others who differ.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Maria66 on October 11, 2017, 07:02:53 AM
When my beloved father passed that morning about 4am my window flew open, curtains billowing into my room. My husband at the time and I both thought it must be bad wind out there. I got up and the night was still nothing. We couldnt make sense of it, but went back to sleep for a few hours.

My father was in hospital at the time. I had a phone call at 8am my sister rang me to tell me dad had sadly passed away in the night at 4am, the nurse was there attending him when he went.

I was bereft and collapsed and just lay on the bed for several hours curled up crying. I felt a hand patting me on my back, and turned around expecting my husband there was no one there.   I did think it odd but just curled back again sobbing in my grief. A few moments later i felt someone quite clearly sitting on the end of my bed it was a heavy person, so i sat up again and looked no one there, i did feel a little prickle of apprehension i must admit. Suddenly my dog Ben came up the stairs i think he heard me moving about. He jumped up onto the bed as he usually did for a cuddle, and suddenly without any warning his back and neck were hackles and he was growling and standing facing the exact spot i could feel someone. He was really angry and growling and staring, then suddenly he just turned around made a weird noise and ran down the stairs.   He never came back up to the bedroom.   I told my husband about it, and he felt it was just imagination. Yes if the dog hadn't reacted i might have thought the same.

Anyway several years later odd things happened, lights on which i never turned on. I had a picture of myself and dad on my fire mantel it had been there several years, and suddenly every morning it would be face down on the floor.   Odd things would happen. I got quite spooked.  A few months later i had a major collapse the first of my MS, and I still think today he was warning me.

In between this my daughter had her first son born in hospital with cesarean. She swore she saw my dad looking over him in his cot. Weirdly enough he is the spitting image of him now and its quite spooky.   My younger grandson one day was sat with his mum in the bed and he said "mum there is an older man i keep seeing he is sat on top of my curtain rail he has glasses and is big and he sits there smiling at me", odd weird, because he had never met him he was only about 4 i think at the time.   

My ex husband although we had been estranged would come to me a lot after his death, i could feel him, he was anxious about our grandson i dont know why but he would be there in my head telling me.

I feel my hubby around me now, but that is just grief i think. I wonder if its not so much an after life, but the energy of that person being strongly connected to someone who stays as i dont feel my father as much now.

I am not sure about after life but i wonder in reincarnation as honestly my grandson is the image of his grandad, and is very like him in character too.   I know family traits etc, but it was odd my daughter saw him looking down at him.

I feel my mum who passed last year. I kinda of hope there is an afterlife it just seems odd we just end.   
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on October 11, 2017, 02:54:32 PM
I dont know -no-one does - even science -and although science tries to deny it, that also is an evolving thing, as quantum physics has shown us. I believe there is something -i used to try and find rational explanations for things but so much has happened that it would actually be irrational to deny those experiences. :hug:
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Maria66 on October 12, 2017, 05:08:02 AM
Yes I agree with you.  We cant even prove how we all got here either. 

I read a brilliant book called chariot of the gods, and some of the things in there really made me think.

I also believe if believing there is an afterlife gives comfort it can only be a good thing really. x
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: longedge on October 12, 2017, 09:49:48 PM
Hi Maria66 - Your experiences sound a little bit scary. My own are very comforting and perhaps just a manifestation of my own longing. I often hear Chris call to me and I even answer sometimes before I realise what I'm doing. I sometimes wish that I wasn't such a sceptic  :smiley:.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Maria66 on October 13, 2017, 05:32:44 AM
Hi Maria66 - Your experiences sound a little bit scary. My own are very comforting and perhaps just a manifestation of my own longing. I often hear Chris call to me and I even answer sometimes before I realise what I'm doing. I sometimes wish that I wasn't such a sceptic  :smiley:.

Funny enough it wasnt scary i had a feeling it was dad all along.  A few days before he passed i was walking the dog in our park right opposite and i can swear he spoke to me in my head.   

I keep feeling Mike around me at the moment, but again that could be just the grief. x
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Fleur on October 13, 2017, 09:40:09 AM
I wish I could feel my husbands comforting presence around me, I have always believed in the afterlife but am full of doubt now because he was so good at comforting anyone in distress.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Maria66 on October 14, 2017, 05:10:47 AM
Morning Fleur, i believe when you can feel them around you they havent gone to the afterlife yet, they cant leave they are not ready. I believe it, my father was with me a lot then suddenly i stopped feeling him, and he finally moved over.  I dont know if that is fantasy or wishing, but i did feel him really strong, then also my ex husband i dont feel him now either.

My mum i didnt really feel but weirdly enough she died in february and her sister in Italy died a week later and her other sister a month later I beleive they were all waiting for one another and now she is with all her family she grew up with.   

I feel mike when i am just sat quietly and really feel connected to him. sometimes i feel he is standing near me. It could just be imagination.   

I think just because i cant always feel him it doesnt mean there isnt an afterlife, perhaps its just someone was calling him strongly from the afterlife.   :candle: he was very close to his mother.

I am sorry you lost your beloved husband its really hard isnt it, i lost mine on the 3rd october and everyday is a challenge to get through it, but i am busy organising his funeral so that helps a bit. xxxxx
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Fleur on October 14, 2017, 06:35:14 PM
Hi Maria. Thank you for your kind words. It is very hard, I hope you get through the following days, the funeral and after it knowing that the friends you have made here will keeping you in their thoughts.
 :hug:
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Twinkle on November 27, 2017, 03:28:20 PM
I did always believe I really did, even after losing Dad 25 years ago and a medium telling me dad didn't want to talk to me, but since I have lost Mum I have lost all belief, I know she would have let me know it was okay if she could,  but nothing, I am thinking about seeing a medium again though...
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Jody27 on February 03, 2018, 04:07:58 AM
My brother who is a non believer rang me 2 nights ago to tell me he had just met with a friends mum who is a medium. She had asked to speak with him. I was quite surprised because of his views on this.

What surprised me even more was that he actually sounded like he believed her. She described things that happened when my father was ill. Talked about my grandfather who we lost just before my dad and also told him a few things that are completely random, which she said was her way of confirming things, like an issue he is having with keys at the minute... he keeps loosing them!!!! Having helped him to pull his house apart to find them one day I can also confirm this. She said about a problem with electrics, but this could not be connected. His girlfriend rang him the next day to get him to contact the electrician as she thought there was an issue as the downstairs lights, they had tripped twice and she thought they needed to get someone to look at it.

I honestly don't know what to believe, I would like to think that there is something but then I think there is a logical reason for everything!! However at a concert one night, the encore song was the one my dad requested be played at his funeral, which came as a bit of a surprise as we were not expecting at all. I returned to the hotel and was standing outside around 1am when a white feather out of nowhere floated down and landed just in front me. My dad loved to walk and was always trying to get me to be more active. So as i bent down to pick it up, a gust of wind caught it and I had to chase it up the street!! As quick as it blew away it stopped, settled on the ground and lay there until I got to it. This also happened to be on father's day, his 1st away from home. I really would like to think it was him letting me know he's still around. xx
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Whyme on March 06, 2018, 12:14:27 PM
This is not about believing but a question to see what others think.
On my first visit with my daughter to the funeral home to see my husband, we took some family photos to place on the table near him. I also took a heart shaped candle which was one of six shaped ones id got as a present for xmas. It was a real white candle but when you lit the wick, the heat activated an  led light that then made a white candle into a colour changing one.  No mains power to plug in and no batteries. As I placed it on the table I asked my daughter to make sure I blew it out on leaving. Anyway after a few minutes I got my lighter out of my bag, then nudged  my daughter with my eyes rolling but said quietly , look at the candle, so she peered at it and said how lovely and peaceful it looked changing colours. Yeh but I've not lit it yet. I've not even lit my lighter. We didn't know whether to laugh or cry and on leaving and it still changing colours, I remarked, Well ???? I can't blow it out cause it's not been lit ????? . My brother in law went to visit about 15 mins after we had left. So I just said, Did he like the colour changing candle but he said he hadn't realised that and thought it was a plain white one. His face was a picture when I explained and I said I was soo glad my daughter was with me to see it or nobody would have believed me. The candle is now on a unit at home and has never changed colour once since without lighting it ?????
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Doug on March 07, 2018, 10:37:54 AM
My lovely loving soulmate, the love of my life for 40 years died from pancreatic cancer last May. With her death I lost virtually everything of real value to me- laughter, joy, delight, passion, peace, sharing, trust, honesty, kindness, empathy, indescribable closeness, tenderness, playfulness ....... with her my heart had found its home. Then it was ripped apart and became frightened of the dark future ahead.

Four days after she died I was standing at the sink about to clean my teeth when quite out of the blue I “heard” her say “don’t fret, it’s wonderful here”. Then just after that “ I love you doug”. Her voice. Right inside my head.  Fret is not a word I’ve ever used and she rarely called me doug but usually a crazy “ pet” name. Startling. So very clear and real. I’ll never forget it and it has made an enormous difference to me. I feel she lives on in some way, somewhere. There is still a strong connection between us and she has somehow encouraged me or guided me towards a new turn in life. She taught children including those with special needs and I feel I want to continue in some way with her work.
So I’m flying out to Zambia in early July and working as a volunteer for just five weeks, as a taster, on teaching, orphan care and community work projects and I’ll see what happens.
I’m 75 now and want to spend my days making a difference to peoples lives in my own small way

I feel/hope that she will “be” there with me. Maybe a crazy dream but it’s a good dream isn’t it?

So I cannot say my experience was imagination, the result of stress or a hint of more beyond what we can see. All I can say is that it really doesn’t matter. Her love has given me meaning to my life and she is still in my heart and always will be.

Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Emz2014 on March 07, 2018, 06:08:01 PM
I think that's wonderful  :hearts: xx
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on March 08, 2018, 01:08:14 PM
Wow Doug that is something i would love to do -i have done some short term volunteer stuff in Africa - setting up school food gardens -but work, a neccesary evil to fund it, means i cant go out there for long. My husband also worked with young people with special needs until his retirement.

I believe absolutely she will be there with you every step of the way - and there is something about Africa which is so deep rooted and spiritual despite all the humanatarian problems it very quickly feels like home, even on the second landing at the airport  i had a smile plastered on my face and a feeling of being home. much more than any UK landing has done.

The bond we have with our loved ones inevitably changes with this unwelcome and forced physical separation but it is never lost. Just as in physica no energy is lost but takes a different form.

Its actually my mum i sometimes hear speak very distinctly.
Keith i feel surounds me as a giant hug or sometimes a hand on my shoulder or something symbolic i find or see.
I remember one moment in Africa on this terrifying zip wire that i couldnt wait to get off -when there was a pause and i turned my head and saw a rainbow in the waterfall - it was almost as if he said for goodnees sake woman -you have always said you wanted to see a waterfall rainbow - now stop panicking and look.

Another time i was just watching a dolphin and could feel some-one behind me -there were other people there but if it had been a stranger it would have been uncomfortably close and i would have turned -but it was so right and so comfortable -i didnt turn because i didnt want to lose it - and when the feeling went and i did turn -everyone else had moved off -no-one was anywhere near me.
I always said from losing hime that i would try to be the eyes on the world for both of us -that i needed to be, because if there is an afterlife and we meet again i want to tell him everything -but i do sometimes wonder if he will just say,  "i know - i was there."
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Tony07 on April 18, 2018, 02:26:58 PM
My lovely loving soulmate, the love of my life for 40 years died from pancreatic cancer last May. With her death I lost virtually everything of real value to me- laughter, joy, delight, passion, peace, sharing, trust, honesty, kindness, empathy, indescribable closeness, tenderness, playfulness ....... with her my heart had found its home. Then it was ripped apart and became frightened of the dark future ahead.

Four days after she died I was standing at the sink about to clean my teeth when quite out of the blue I “heard” her say “don’t fret, it’s wonderful here”. Then just after that “ I love you doug”. Her voice. Right inside my head.  Fret is not a word I’ve ever used and she rarely called me doug but usually a crazy “ pet” name. Startling. So very clear and real. I’ll never forget it and it has made an enormous difference to me. I feel she lives on in some way, somewhere. There is still a strong connection between us and she has somehow encouraged me or guided me towards a new turn in life. She taught children including those with special needs and I feel I want to continue in some way with her work.
So I’m flying out to Zambia in early July and working as a volunteer for just five weeks, as a taster, on teaching, orphan care and community work projects and I’ll see what happens.
I’m 75 now and want to spend my days making a difference to peoples lives in my own small way

I feel/hope that she will “be” there with me. Maybe a crazy dream but it’s a good dream isn’t it?

So I cannot say my experience was imagination, the result of stress or a hint of more beyond what we can see. All I can say is that it really doesn’t matter. Her love has given me meaning to my life and she is still in my heart and always will be.

Good for you Doug, I wish you well I really do, go for it and may the force be with you.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Doug on April 19, 2018, 01:26:11 PM
Thanks for that Tony
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: KC on May 15, 2018, 09:16:21 PM
I've never really had any strong views either way, but I'm more inclined to believe there is something after death and that the "spirit" for want of a better word still exists. The reason I think this is a bit long winded but here goes..
2 months after my husband died our daughter disovered she was pregnant, we were overjoyed of course but saddened that he would not be here to see the baby.
We have 3 daughters, 2 of them have children and they are all boys. We all used to joke about it would be this daughter who would give him the one thing he wanted- a little Grandaughter (the 2 with kids always used to laugh and say "Forget it Dad..were not going there again talk to +++, she'll give you a grandaughter !)
whilst our daughter was pregnant, strange things kept occuring- nothing frightening- Keys missing and several people looking and then suddenly turn up in an odd place.The smell of his aftershave being strong in the bathroom, missing reading glasses being found in the place that 3 people had looked in.

well, yes you guessed it - she had a beautiful baby girl in august last year

After she was born, at a few weeks old when they are too young to smile and respond consistently really...she started to look at the ceiling at the light fitting and smile.As weeks went on she consistently smiled and giggled at the light fitting just as if someone was talking to her. We made a joke of it and just put it down to her talking to the "ceiling people" It still happens.
She's 9 months old now and still is quite obsessed with the bookcase and the pictures on there,i thought it was because of our wedding photo with us both in it - she can obviously recognise me but when i picked it up the other day to show her a closer look she put her hand over his face and then looked at me and gave me a big grin from ear to ear.

maybe coincidence,maybe not. I'm none the wiser really, but does make me think...also made me a bit tearful...but happy in a strange way..


sorry for the essay.


Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on May 16, 2018, 12:22:30 PM
No need for apology KC I think you might be right about this,  until logic steps in or we are constantly told we didnt see something, i do believe we see a lot more and as young children dont question it but take it as a naural part of life. My eldest grandson was born just a few months after my mum died, and my daughter was living in her house with him,and similar things happened. Firstly the first time i took him out in his pram a neighbour and friend of my mums stopped me to have a peek, and just for a second it seemed my mums eyes were looking back at me, the neighbour saw it too and took a loud inward breath - i have never seen it before or after he doesnt look anything like her. But he would often lie and his eyes follow something we couldnt see, and later would be talking and giggling as though some-one was in the room with him. He is almost 14 now, with 3 rough and tumble brothers, but it seems he has inherited the same gentle soul as her.I,m sure your little grandaughter will continue to remind you of your husband in some way even if she can never express seeing him or doesnt see him as she gets older he will be there in another way :hug:
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Tracey on May 25, 2018, 02:41:35 PM
I would like to think there is a after life has I have  a sister and my mum in heaven I lost my mum  in January 3rd this year.still to this day  it is very hard .
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: The Laird on June 15, 2018, 10:19:48 PM
Very interesting reading this discussion and until I moved into this house I was really a non believer about such things but right from the start here I know for certain there is life after death thanks to the crazy things that happen here....I could write for hours about the various things that happen here and with many witnesses. Sadly haven't heard anything from Ruth yet but i am sharing my home with at least 2 other? not sure what to call them but one is Morag who used to live here until early 80's and many witnesses of her and voices but the other one who we named Big Boots for obvious reasons doesn't seem so friendly and again too much to write about him/it but in the last couple of weeks I have had some strange things happening and quite unsettling at times but I will never leave here so i have to put up with it. This may sound like the words of an idiot and i would probably have said the same 20 years ago but not now.....I'm not mad and neither were the builders who packed up and left after seeing me in the house when i was actually down in Bradford at the time and spoke to them on the phone. Big Boots does seem a more violent presence but hopefully he will either sod off or give me some peace. 
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Cinn on November 21, 2018, 11:57:15 PM
Thank you everyone who has posted here. I lost my beloved husband less than a week ago and am heavy with sadness.  Im not sure what i believe, but what you all have written here is comforting. Im an atheist, my husband was agnostic, so neither of us are religious. I do think quantum physics hints that there may be something of an afterlife, in a way that we cannot really imagine. When my husband was very ill he told me he was terrified to die because he may never see me again, or wouldnt be able to find me. His own father passed just 5 months before, and he was still grieving for him, so i hope they found each other. I deeply hope to be with my husband again, and all those i love.  I dont know if i believe that i will,  but i know if i dont feel any hope of ever seeing him again this life will be too much to bear.  I might even consider suicide except for the fact my husband expressed worry that if i were to do that,  my soul may end up in a different place than his, and i think that may very well be if our souls do go on.  Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts and experiences. 
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on December 07, 2018, 12:53:57 PM
 
I also found quantum physics interesting The key thing it did show which it has proven, is the  way we were taught physics, that there are rules represented by equations that are undisputable facts and there is no deviation therefor x or y cannot be true has been blown out of the water - and i think if you start to believe that then you can start to believe in all the other possabilities - reincarntion, heaven, tree spritis and the existance of the creatures we named fairies -and that opens up so many more possabilities too us -
However I dont believe in the idea our souls are selected to be  in different places according to how our lives are lived or how we died and that this is decided  by a divine hand that punishes us if we break some rules, when the only rules known too us are those based on something interperted by man so may not be the right rules, and i think it is really important for those who have lost some-one too suicide that we stop the idea that suicide is a sin because mental health is as fundamental too life as physical health - often harder to cope with in some ways because it is hidden.
In the early days i thought about suicide too - there seemed to be no point in my continued existance here - but it wasnt so much fear of being sent somewhere else but fear of blowing any opportunity that might exist of us being reunited hapilly when i would not be the soul he recognised  i imagined a conversation -how woud that go - how would he feel about me -putting our familly through even more pain or creating the trauma for a  policeman or ambulance man or bystander that i would cause - but most of all, if having watched him fight for his life i threw mine away.so supose he understands and we sit together -how does the next conversation go - if i have done nothing been no-where what can i tell him of the world,but there is also the other case that perhaps they stay alongside us in some way and continue to see us through a veil in which we cant see them but sometimes feel their presence, if we dont live our lives as fully as we can then how does this affect them - would they feel trapped by our tiny existance would they leave our side because it is such a little existance that they see we cant hear them or feel them there.

 :hug: I know right now it is hard to imagine that you can, but if you try and live your life as though you are his eyes on the world he will give you the strength to do that whether there is or isnt an afterlife whether they remain by our side of not -we dont know with certainty but we have connected in ways that cannot be brocken - they have been part of our journey and even though we now have to take separate journeys for a time, what we have shared and what we have learned will go with us.

For me it was about journeys but so early on just geting up,and surviving the day  is a journey to go back to doing something you loved or to a place you wanted to go together but didnt get chance feels like a huge mountain but so does every day in these early times  - you dont have to leap up the mounains  but little by little put things into place so you can climb it because if you can  make it a goal of doing something for him, he will be the strength in some way that pushes you to do it - and once you have there will be something else you want to do for him and again his energy will hold you up.   
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Jamie96 on December 31, 2018, 02:02:21 AM
Im an atheist, I never really bought into the idea of Religion as a hole, but now ive lost someone....I get it. I get why people like to believe that theyre loved ones are in heaven looking down on them. its very comforting.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Thea on April 03, 2019, 08:49:03 PM
I do. My late father was a medium. He used to give readings. I know that I have some sort of gift and am busy trying to develop it.

One evening last December, just before Christmas, I was watching a Christmas movie on tv and I suddenly got the most intense feeling that my partner, Des (he passed in November 2018) was standing in the doorway. The feeling was so intense that I actually looked at the doorway fully expecting to see him standing there. I know that it was Des and I talk daily to him asking him to please give me a sign and let me know he is with me. 
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on April 04, 2019, 12:21:47 PM
I have had that happen Thea - we used to go at every possible opportunity for a holiday or weekend to a place in Wales to watch the dolphins,it was a while before i could face going back on my own but i came to the conclusion life was bad enough without giving up everything i loved doing on top of that so i went back and have done a few times since. One day i was standing on the harbour wall completely mesmerised by a dolphin that was very close in,  aware there were people standing behind me but then i felt almost as though some-one put an arm round me some-one  so warm and close i almost leaned back on them - if i had thought it was one of the strangers i had half clocked  i would have been very uncomfortable and shifetd, yet i wasnt - i carried on watching the dolphin for a good few minutes,almost instinctively knowing that if i turned away the feeling would go and it faded as the dolphin moved off but when i did turn round the people had all moved a long way down the wall there was no-one there.

so rather than not go back, afraid that it will be unbearble to do so (and it can also be a painful thing to do so its bittersweet)  perhaps for some reason they are closer too us when we go back somewhere they loved, - was the presence of the dolphin something to do with it - some kind of messanger-  or maybe when we go forward,  if we go somewhere they wanted to go as i also felt this in south africa (no dolphin present then but a rainbow in a waterfall - he never went there but would have loved too and i remember us seeing a picture of a waterfall rainbow in our early days together and saying how beautiful it would be to see that one day.)

I dont know, no-one really does, but my theory is if there is a spirit or soul within us and it is set free when our body dies, why would we not travel, so as well as their loss being particularly poignant at times like that, perhaps their presence is also more greatly enhanced.
If that is the case then taking them with us, talking too them, living our life as though for them when we find we have no incentive to live it for ourselves is a way we can slowly move forward.
 For them to see us crippled by grief must be equally painful for them and so perhaps those are the times we cant reach other through that pain and that worsens it, but doing something normal like watching a xmas movie,going somewhere or doing something they loved, experiencing a moment of joy or seeing something that brings us awe, we can then share that far more easilly.

Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Thea on April 04, 2019, 08:56:56 PM
Hi Karena. What a beautiful experience you had. I envy you that warm embrace.

I talk to Des every day and I ask him over and over for a sign so that I know he is here with me.

I had a weird experience in the middle of one night a few weeks ago. I woke up lying on my left side and realised that I was completely paralysed and couldn't speak. While I struggled to move my right arm I kept repeating over in my mind 'Please God, please God'. I could also hear someone moving around behind me on Des' side of the bed. Then I heard someone walk from the door, around the foot of the bed and then to Des' side.
 
I managed to overcome the paralysis and turn over onto my back. I looked sideways and saw someone lying in the bed with me and I just knew it was Des. I rolled over to face him. I could hear him breathing and knew he was asleep. I reached out to touch his face but I couldn't feel him, my hand went through his face. So I held my hand over his cheek. Then he opened his eyes and said 'I've been all over, I've even been to Las Vegas' (he had always wanted to go to some big car show there).
I said 'You do know you're not here anymore?' and he nodded. I then asked 'What do you do? What work do you do?' Then he disappeared. 

This was not a dream. If it was, then it was not like any other dream that I've ever had.   
 
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on April 05, 2019, 12:41:45 PM
I had an experience similar to that on a camp site - in the dream i got up and left the campervan walked into the woods next to the site which was moonlit and headed down towards where there is a view of the sea - on the way i was passing a really old tree when this own flew down  (it didnt speak or hoot but communicated in my mind)
and told me it was bringing me the part of my soul i had lost, and i, also not speaking, said that it belonged to keith and always would so i couldnt take it back.

In the morning i decided it was a dream - owls were significant too us as we had rescued one,my soul belonging to him was how i was thinking so it made sense it was just that - until i got up and started to get dressed and discovered my shoes, that had been dry and clean and left inside the door, were now outside and covered in mud and leaves. I re-traced my steps i found  footprints that fit mine and the tree which i hadnt noticed before particulalry was also real.

To this day i still dont know for sure what was going on, but i also subsequently discovered that there is an ancient stone circle hidden in those woods so perhaps a wisdom far older than ours and forgotten in our modern world was at play.   
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Thea on April 05, 2019, 07:12:51 PM
Oh wow. How awesome. :grin:

I agree, there is definitely something more than us out there.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: green dragon on May 03, 2019, 01:35:21 PM
To begin with, I'm glad to see reincarnation is so popular. Maybe we're onto something! I sure hope so.

What I want to believe right now goes something like this: we take this human form (and the body as shell or garment, as our main tool and vehicle towards completing our earthly goals) so as to better our spiritual part, which is also part of the universal consciousness. By bettering our bit, we better the whole as well. Why is there a universal consciousness to begin with or why does it need betterment via successive human existences, don't ask me just now, I heven't thought about that part yet. But I suppose it can be bettered via other deeds beside human (or animal, plant etc.) existences. That might be beyond our understanding.

Every time we return from an incarnation to the "mothership", aka the universal consciousness, we feed into it the bit we have bettered on our sojourn on Earth, which causes it to go up a bit on the positive scale. The universal consciousness is a place where we know everything there is to know about the universe and also where we act differently than our small core on earth does, because when we there, we are directly connected to all the other cores (we form something like a giant brain) and also because you wouldn't think like humans do on earth at the epicentre of everything. I can't explain more, obviously, because it took me long enough to imagine this bit as it is... Suffice to say, that is the centre of everything that ever existed (which continues to exist in a different form).

If we bungled up and lead a life of crime or such, then we return to the mothership to bathe into the "goodness", replenish our spirit with positive energy and formulate a plan for the next life, which, hopefully, will be a better run. If we were good and achieved most of our goals, then we still bathe in the maximised goodness and still formulate our next plan. The idea is that our "core", the one which has access to the universal consciousness, is essentially good, but due to the conditions imposed on the core by the earthly material existence, we bend, more or less, to passions and everyday pettiness, which cause us to not achieve some of the goals, or go through great hardships in order to succeed.

After a certain time (let's say, when we have completely recharged with positive energy), we launch on our next assignment and start a new life. Now I, of course, want to believe that the people we are the closest to in any given life meet us in most, if not all, our lives. Hard to say what is the deal with the people who cause us pain and trouble but I suppose they also work through their obstacles and may return as a better person at the next life encounter and we may be happy to solve our differences (kumbaya!).

I don't know how this all works out, it sounds like scheduling madness if you're asking me. For instance, will my Mum wait for me so that we can meet in the next lifetime or is she going to get itchy feet (as she would in this life) and reincarnate pronto and go through a life somewhere else, where she meets other people and works out other issues? Because if she's going to be a baby now it's not likely that we would end up having another very strong connection in my current lifetime (though you never know, one neighbour suggested I try for a baby now! I was like, come on, what's the point without Mum around to enjoy a grandchild? But the truth is, I have been obsessed with switching our roles, so... but it is a bit late for me to have a baby that I could see as long as Mum saw me). However, perhaps there is a fatigue period as well? We need to take breaks from reincarnation? Maybe we run different lifetimes with different sets of people? That could be possible. Or we spend a longish amount of time in the universal consciousness bath (that sounds very nice).

This is as far as I have got. I might come back and post if the theory gets more complex as time passes.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Emz2014 on May 03, 2019, 03:11:37 PM
I think that in life sometimes we learn 'lessons' from other people, and sometimes we are the lessons for others. There could be someone who causes you pain, but you could be the one that has to be part of their journey for a life lesson.

Xx
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: green dragon on May 03, 2019, 10:25:37 PM
There could be someone who causes you pain, but you could be the one that has to be part of their journey for a life lesson.

Good point, and that is a very optimistic look at it all, because we can hope that next time we meet, if we do, they will behave better. My acquaintance that is a life coach also poitned out that sometimes when we behave seemingly out of character towards others, it may be that they are dealing with that kind of answer. Not to blame the victim, mind.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: lavern2411 on May 06, 2019, 07:52:41 PM
I believe there is something, not sure what though. I lost my darling Darren at the beginning of April this year. He died of Sepsis, following treatment for metastatic colorectal cancer, it all happened very suddenly and think I am still in shock.

The week before he died he had been playing Lewis Capaldi’s song ‘someone you loved’, he loved the video and kept asking me to Watch it with him and we would both cry. I decided to have it as one of the songs at his funeral, the day before his funeral I was feeling really anxious worrying that he would be happy with what I had planned as even though he had advanced cancer we never got the chance to talk about what he wanted. That day in every shop I went into, including the barbers with my son that song was playing, it was on the radio in the car - it followed me everywhere. I believe it wears Darren telling me not to worry and that he was ok.

I talk to him all the time and believe he is watching over me, his children, grandchildren and close friends. I don’t want him tied to me, I get comfort with the thought he is with family who have passed and he is having a party with them. I miss him with every fibre of my body, but talking to him brings comfort.

I have seen mediums after my grandparents passed, they were good and I have experienced so e boot so good. I think there is nothing wrong with it as long as your life does not revolve around visiting these people, I don’t believe its what our loved ones would want for us.

Sorry post was longer than planned

Nicki
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on May 07, 2019, 02:00:23 PM
dont aplologise for long posts Nicki its always interesting to hear everyones ideas and thoughts.

Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Joannie85 on May 13, 2019, 09:22:36 AM
Hello I am new here.
My husband was 39 when he passed on 11th March this year due to a motorbike accident. Neither of us were religious and he even said once he is dead I can do what I like with him because he is dead and wont know anything about it! I had him cremated (I had already told him he wasnt being buried because I am chlostraphobic and I wont be buried with him) sonow i have got him home with me. The thing is.....i sont feel like he is home with me, it feels like i just have a box sat on my fireplace, does anyone else feel like this? The family all say "oh its lovely you have him home", but i dont feel like i do. Hopefully I am not the only one to feel this way? Xxx
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on May 13, 2019, 12:21:33 PM
I think i know what you mean Joannie i am not religious as in i dont follow a religion, but my feeling is that while ashes are the remains of the physical body we inhabit, our spirit or soul is not with them - in terms of spirit, again you dont need to be religious or believe in an afterlife of any kind even, i do, but none of us  knows so i am aware that i might be very wrong.
 
But even if you dont believe that, you can  feel them around you in your heart and in your memorys of them, in a situation you get into,whether its advice or something funny that happened or something you cant find in the house, or going somewhere new,you know what they would have said or done and call on them it that sense, so they remain part of your life, how could they not.

We are all different and for many people Ashes are a comfort, I know some-one who takes his wifes ashes with him whenever he goes away in his car - i take my husbands daft hat everywhere in my campervan because he always wore it when we went off camping - it isnt because i  think he inhabits the hat, it is just a physical symbol which represents the idea that he still travels with me in some other way, and for some people ashes do the same thing - for me the hat is a symbol of his life rather than ashes which are not.

You said that you chose cremation because you wouldnt want to be be buried with him , so i am guessing you are thinking  your ashes will eventually be reunited with his,  so maybe if you think of them in that sense, rather than looking for and not finding comfort from them now, you will start to see, as i have, comfort in other things, symbols which represent life together,

I dont have all his ashes, as his children wanted to scatter some and one of his daughters had some made into a ring to be her engagement ring so he would get to walk down the aisle with her, her sister did the marathon this year wearing the ring -which we smiled over as he certainly wasnt a marthon runner, but again it was symbolic for her and in that way spurred her on to finish just as he would have done had he been stood at the finish line -  so again they are using them as a physical symbol of his presence in a different way, they dont think he inhabits the ring.

A symbol doesnt have to be related to a religion or a belief, but something which speaks about the things you shared,it doesnt have to be romantic, the hat isnt romantic but it feels right that it stays on the dash where he used to throw it, and it makes me smile to see it there just as i would smile when we went off together.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Sandra61 on May 13, 2019, 01:09:28 PM
What a lovely way to sum all this up, Karena.

Joannie, I have never had anyone cremated in my family, but I don't think I could feel the person I had lost was with me in the ashes either. I have never really understood the desire to be cremated and prefer the option of burial, not sure why, I suppose it's just what we have always done in my family.

Anyway, whichever you choose, I think just relates to disposal of the shell the person you have lost inhabited.  They don't remain there after death though. With that in mind, I have never viewed the body of a lost loved one after death, as I don't feel that's where they are anymore. They have moved into another type of existence. I had to wait for hours with my mother's body at the hospital after she died waiting for my brother to arrive, but I didn't feel she was in her body anymore. I could see she wasn't. I hoped she was aware I was in the room, but am not sure if she had already moved beyond that space or not. I talked to her a little in case she had not, but I couldn't feel her presence there.

I do believe in an after-life and I am religious, though not rigidly so. Religions are largely man-made so all have their faults. I have lost several people close to me now in my lifetime and I know life goes on after death because of the things I have experienced. I have smelt the perfumes of female friends and relatives I have lost when there was no explanation that could explain my being able to smell any scent at all. I have asked for and found feathers in places where no rational explanation could explain their having got there. My dad worked with furniture and his workshop had a specific smell of the polishes and chemicals he used to use when working and I smelled that strongly on the stairs one time at home shortly after he died. We also had a problem with a padlock he had used to lock up a ladder in the back garden and could not find the key to get it undone so we could bring in the ladder and just as we were saying we would have to give up looking for it we heard a noise out by the ladder and found one of the links securing the ladder had snapped inexplicably at that moment so that we were able to bring it in. My mother told me some weeks after he died, that she heard him telling her he may as well go now, presumably as he felt there was nothing more he could do to help us by then. So all these things signify to me that the person does not die when the body does.

I dreamt about both my dad and my mum after each of them died too. The first dream was of my dad, lying on the bed in his favourite clothes looking very relaxed and telling me he was fine and I should not worry about him and then again to tell me he was going back to visit the place he came from and hoped we did not mind. I dreamt my mum spent time cuddling me for a while and then walked sadly away through an archway under a building. I have no idea what the building was but had the sense she was saying goodbye and taking her leave of this life and moving on to the next level of existence, whatever that may be. The dreams were very vivid and have stayed with me. I don't usually remember my dreams, so I feel sure they were not ordinary dreams.

I am sure they live on in some other form and I miss them, but I think they turn up now and then, when I am in some kind of trouble and feel certain in my own heart and mind that death is not the end of life. I know you feel differently and you may be right, but even though our beliefs differ, I do not think your husband inhabits his ashes, so I understand that you do not feel he is with you in those. That does not mean that he is not with you though. If nothing else, he lives in  your love for him and in your memories of him. I am sure you can hear what he would say or advise in certain circumstances, just as I can hear what my mum or dad would say. You are where you are in your life partly due to him and so even that is a tribute to his existence in the world.

Whatever you believe, he will always be a part of your life and your memories. In a way, that is a way of living on, because you will never forget him. Life is cruel, Joannie and you should have had many more years together, but you had the time you did, so treasure that and concentrate on looking after you now.  :hearts:
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Dee on July 29, 2019, 04:57:41 PM
Yes, I think so, I don't think anyone knows how or why but I do believe there is enough evidence from people to suggest that we certainly do not know. It may be that it means God to you or Buddah or else but there are things that I have seen that help me know that I don't understand it but it's there.
Tim had a dream, two days before he dropped dead, my mum who had died 2 +1/2 years earlier was beckoning him from the top of the stairs, smiling and telling him to come up from the hall to her. He was freaked out by it he said," I never dream about your mum".
I remember, when young, understanding that time is not linear, I don't know why I thought that, but I distinctly remember thinking " yes, that's the way it is, I can see into tomorrow and yesterday because it's all-round".
So maybe it's not afterlife but part of life, a swirl of life that is hard to see as we go by our lives.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: mac on August 26, 2019, 06:14:55 PM
I an totally confident that this is not our only life; there is a so-called afterlife beyond this one.    :smiley:

The bodies we live in die but our 'real selves' do not.  Many individuals have 'an inner feeling' this is so but aren't sure why.  It does not matter if we don't understand and it does not matter whether we are religious or spiritual - survival applies to us all without exception.

When we lose a loved one we naturally miss their very physical presence and that can't be changed.  But understanding they are not gone for ever can help us deal with their loss.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: The Laird on August 28, 2019, 05:17:06 PM
I am 100% convinced there is life after death after witnessing many strange things in my home, I may have mentioned it before on here but cannot remember? well I have at least 2 spirits living here one we named Morag and the other nicknamed Big Boots due to its very heavy footsteps through the house and also the size of him/it is nearly as big as me at 6ft 5" and he isn't particularly friendly) Many people have heard/seen them and unlike the scary horror movies things happen at any time of the day hence reason many witnesses. They rattle door handles, bang on the windows and walls, rattle glasses plus once i was having a bad day and heard footsteps along the corridor while i was in the office so i just said "Why don't you show yourself for a change?" next thing i know my TV that was off in the office set on fire and i had to throw it out of the office window.....its a good job it happened in there as its the only room with a opening window big enough to actually climb out all the others are long narrow opening windows at the top. Also this year i have on 3 occasions had something ice cold go straight through my chest and felt like i had swallowed a whole ice lolly in one piece and when this happened Rory chased after something down the corridor and then stopped growling at the corner which is something he never does. Many more things have happened too many to list but if there is no afterlife then what do we see and hear? people might think i am puddled but were the 2 policemen who were at my home (they had come to see me about illegal hunters not myself lol)  they were standing in the kitchen chatting and the door handle rattled 4 ft from them lol when i opened it to show them they soon left lol. I will never leave this place as its my paradise so i have to share it with my spirit friends. I made 2 Ouija boards for someone in Yorkshire this year and was tempted to try one out here but didn't after people warned me it could be dodgy BUT  in the late 80's my home was rented out to a family who apart from damage every bit of woodwork here (no respect for others property) one of them used to dabble in the boards so makes me wonder if they are responsible for the activity here. I actually asked local vicar to bless the place last year and he stayed 5 mins and left lol its was like sodding Exorcist he just said "sorry I cannot stay" got up and went with no explanation. Maybe one day Ruth will come and turf the others out.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Dawnee on October 14, 2019, 12:54:49 AM
Yes I do believe in the after life. The day my husband passed, I could still feel him and that night I felt the end of the bed go down. I saw a medium that April and she pulled me out of the crowd and spoke about toung and cheek soul mates then told me it's very rare for real soul mates to exist. I was then told that my husband and I were the rare ones, I had been with him thousands of years before and I would be for a thousand more.she also said he was there with us. He told her things she couldn't possibly know. He said he loves me and will see me when it's my turn. He told her he wanted me to get a ring made from his ashes in my favorite color purple, which she wouldn't have known. He's not in pain anymore and that was comforting for me. I felt a lot of love from him that evening and I can't wait to run into his arms. So yes I believe :hug: xx
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Penelope on November 24, 2019, 08:58:46 AM
It’s such an interesting subject and one I reflect on a lot. My own experience regarding the afterlife has been one I never expected really. I will share a few here. I was told when I was in my early teens by family members, that I use to talk to my dead cousin. I don’t have any memory of this, except the fear of walking down a certain path, which actually goes by the cemetery she is buried in. I never understood when older where that came from. But apparently I would see her and she would ask to play with me. I never knew her in my lifetime alive, she died 8 years before I was born of cot death. But I was seeing her as older. At first my mum thought I had an imaginary friend. Till I told her it was Zoe and she started to freak out. Apparently I would talk about Zoe a lot. Again I don’t recall it myself. However when I was 17 I was with friends and we visited one of my friends old school friends, after bumping into them in town. We went to their flat. I didn’t know him, I met his sister and realised they all lived in the flat. As we were leaving I saw a woman stood with the coats. Her hair was platted and she was dressed for bed. She looked in her 40’s. We were saying goodbye and I looked at her wondering who she was. Then she clocked me looking at her, and her jaw dropped. I looked at my friends and then looked back. She was gone. When we left I mentioned her to my friend. He asked me to describe her. He told me I just described his friends mum, that she died when he was 15 after having an epileptic seizure in the garden and drowned in the pond. She had been hanging out washing in her nighty and dressing gown. I didn’t know what to say to that. I have dreamed of my grandad after he passed who ordered me to learn guitar lol, I dreamt of my great anti Kath and we sat and chatted, she had a green light coming off her. Never had I seen that before. I had a visitation dream of my best friend, offering me to go with her. I was 16 then and she had been dead almost a year. I have had a number of dreams of her since. Just before my fiancé died I dreamt she was preparing a place for us. She said “don’t worry Pen, it’s all going to be okay” my fiancé told me “don’t you be going anywhere Mrs “ I was almost 9 months pregnant. Then he died and I couldn’t stay in our house, so I was laying on a friends sofa, my new born baby was in his mosses basket next to me. I felt a draft breeze over me and it almost felt like my fiancé touched my lips and stroked the right side of my face.

I don’t profess to being anything like a clairvoyant. I actually love science because I like proof, which I don’t feel I get with religion. I don’t believe there is a god, though I think people who hold such faith must have wonderful trusting hearts. But I believe there has to be something. Einstein says we are made up of energy, and energy can’t die so where does it go?  I would be kind of stupid to ignore the things I have seen. That or I am hallucinating lol

Maybe by teaching people to have faith, prepares the mind for transition. Like anything we master, it’s a skill that is learnt. So maybe if your mindset is “there is nothing, then nothing it will be?” But naturally all this is just ideas and we can only truly know once we die ourselves
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Jackie - Richard on November 24, 2019, 12:28:10 PM
Yes i believe there is better to come, i believe in an afterlife...I have been reading some books by Joni Eareckson Tada, ( born October 15, 1949 ) is an Evangelical Christian, author, speaker, radio host, and founder of Joni and Friends, an organisation, "accelerating Christian ministry in the disability community,"and have been taking some comfort from them, from her...She is an american lady who is a quadriplegic, she also paints with her mouth, a very inspiring lady...I too have a disability of MS...
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Tiddles on January 09, 2020, 05:10:54 PM
Has to be something our bodies die but where do our spirits go?
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Sarahj on January 22, 2020, 10:04:21 PM
This topic is something that i do think about for a few personal reasons as listed....

*my baby son BEN was stillborn 24 years ago on 1st APRIL and the thoughts of meeting him again is priceless, words can't even describe.

*my father died suddenly on our first foreign holiday JULY 12th 2005 and about 3 days after i was lying in bed and felt someone stroke my head as if to say it's ok and try to reassure me, it was such an amazing feeling.

*my mum died just 5 months ago from a long battle with cancer and i long to get a little sign, a sign either to say i am here, i am ok or i am here with ben and your dad.

For now my breaking heart is swarmed with images of my 3 angels together until we meet again, free from pain... i just long for a little sign, its just what keeps me sane and keeps me carrying on with life.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Karena on January 23, 2020, 12:00:29 PM
 :hug: sometimes maybe we long for that so much we look in the wrong places because we have predetermined ideas of what it will - sometimes we see it and dont understand what it was until afterwards - it will come in time though.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: elleReynolds on May 14, 2020, 10:08:38 AM
Hello, I know I am a firm believer of sleep visitations, my beloved came to me in my sleep on two occasions, just after I lost him, I feel it was so different than a dream .
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Katiecrossdress on July 11, 2020, 12:14:12 PM
Hi just to say I do . I know that god exists when I was 19 I was struggling and asked Jesus into my life . I felt a wonderful warmth in my heart which never lasted but now I have faith . I am not religious I just believe . God can hear you , so don’t ever feel you are alone . I am a male to female crossdresser which not everyone understands but I think it’s my way of coping with my loss . I go out dressed as have had abuse but always say a little prayer that god will keep me safe . I know all about emotional pain as I am adopted , my brother used to hug my mum when I was younger . I lost my Dad when I was 17 in 1986 and my mum in 2012
I am weak but I am strong because god walks with me .
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Pep on July 11, 2020, 02:20:26 PM
Hi Katie...

Sad you losing both parents...

For me... maybe... i like to think my family are watching down on me and are very proud of what i have achieved. For now im just getting thought my bereavement a bit at a time.

I say to myself that i am strong. My wife looks at me and ask me what it means. She hasent suffered loss of close family like us so I dont expect her to understand. The trouble was that i just couldnt explain my strength either. Its like i am being strong on behalf of my sisters as they were only young. I dont know... i'll work it out one day.

Anyway... the reason why i have replied to you is because in my first post (30, 25 and 16 years later...) i said i loved the lyrics in "Waltzing Along" by James. I want to you read the lyrics and listen to the song. If you enjoy listening to music that is???

I hope you enjoy it.

But i have just realised something today after ive listened to it for the 1000th time since its release (and im not making this bit up) he sings near the end "By this heart-felt song"

My first sister was married to a guy with surname 'Heartveldt'. I was just in tears. Sometimes in life you just want to believe (and in my case) that my sister told James to write that into his song.

It may not be the "I believe in after life too" response you were hoping for but i am 100% with you when you say you are strong too. And you know what... you dont have to post why it is you think you are weak but you are clearly showing strength so play that tune and keep reminding yourself of that.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Katiecrossdress on July 11, 2020, 02:54:03 PM
Thank you I will take a listen xx
Title: Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
Post by: Joey on October 05, 2020, 03:22:56 PM
I think life is somewhat like a Rorschach inkblot test.  You see in it what you want to see and that isn’t a demeaning or depressing comment, rather why life is so wonderfully complex and varied.  The most resonating comments I have heard on the contemplation of life are: “We come out of this world, we didn’t come in to it…”, “You can’t get intelligent life out of an unintelligent universe” and one of my favourites, “Love knows no death”.  I don’t have a strong view on what happens after we pass, but, maybe the Buddhists have an insight here with their beautiful complex sand mandala’s and the astonishing act of wiping away these highly intrinsic and beautifully complex patterns once they have finished.  All the same sand particles remain, just not in the beautiful unique arrangement.  But whatever happens after we pass, it will be natural just like coming out of this world was natural and therefore, maybe we shouldn’t get anxious as whatever happens naturally is the right course of events.

I lost my beautiful wife and best friend 3 years ago and I think about her every day and I always hope that wherever she has gone, she is safe and happy.  She always said she would make contact however, we all have our definitive views of what such contact looks like.  I brought my wife back to the UK from the USA where we were living to be interned with her parents.  I was not looking forward to that day, putting the ashes of the person you love into the ground is something that changes you irretrievably and why I think about life and death so much.  So, the day before this event, my brother tried to give me a change of scenery and take me out for dinner.  He tried his favourite places but they were all booked, he had luck with only one place and we drove there with his wife.  When we got there, I realized I recognized the place, it was where my wife and I had our first date.  When I was inside, I saw the place where we sat and it suddenly occurred to me, it was also the same date, 28 years ago to the day. 

We see in life what we want to see and on that day I chose to see beauty.